Kshemendra Paul: I want to answer that on two levels, give two answers. One is sort of the policy cultural level and the other specific to the ISE. So the policy cultural level, you know, it’s clear that we have to fully embrace open government ideas and techniques. Government is transparent. Government is participatory. Government is collaborative. You know in the panel we've talked about the fallout from the unauthorized disclosures last year. I go back a little bit further with the Wiki leaks activity. There’s a real need to maintain legitimacy in our activities. We live and work in a democratic society it’s important to be transparent about what we’re doing to the extent possible and feasible. So that’s a real I think lesson for us to embrace. I know that I've heard that from Director [inaudible 00:00:47] directly repeatedly. The President has talked about that. JIm Flyzik: Sure. Kshemendra Paul: The work we've done, the reason we’ve had success in the past is because of the transparency in building out the National Network Fusion Centers things like suspicious activity reporting and the engagement with the advocacy of community and rest. So that’s the big cultural kind of answer. So coming specifically to what we’re doing, you know I envision a future where we have a rosette of stone for sharing threat and risk intelligence and information operational threat and risk information. This reports a distributed, decentralized approach strong protections for privacy so the rights and civil liberties but provides an integrated view of threat and risk. Think about things like the [inaudible 00:01:31] incident last year where the sniper was targeting those big transformers that were key vulnerabilities for the electric -- Pacific gas and electric out there. They're also interested in understanding vulnerability against cyber threats. They want to have an integrated view and so I think that’s kind of a key to the future. And we’re levering current initiatives and frameworks. We've talked about the identity credential on access management. The big investment we've made around sensitive and unclassified networks like DHS is his and Leo Intel Link and those the [inaudible 00:02:07] driving out and the National Fusion Center and the ISACs, you know, they're key constructs. So all of these working together. JIm Flyzik: Terrific. 00:02:16 END OF AUDIO