Rick Walsh: Well, where are we going mobile as a workspace? JIm Flyzik: Okay. Rick Walsh: Okay. You’re going to work where you are. Okay, with that, so in the office, you plug in on the road or on the cloud. You see unified capabilities are going to come into play. We’re going to be able to do voice over IP, collaboration, texting, talking, all over mobile devices. We’re going to have all that in place. That’s where we’re going to go and I need to get away in my end state, is I want to get away from devices. I want to manage data and I want to manage people. Okay? Get away from the device. What, because what really is, what’s important? Data. Data and the people. The device is a conduit. JIm Flyzik: Right. Rick Walsh: We’re not there yet. It’s going to take a while, but the future is a device-independent mobile environment.