Neal Shelly: One of the things that has always fascinated me if you put any five people in a room you can get six or seven definitions of what cloud is. Jim: That’s right. Neal Shelly: So, what we look at and you mentioned band aid solutions that build up over the years. Jim: Uh-huh. Neal Shelly: One of the things that were looking at is taking advantage in this transition period as we move towards that cloud, is choosing amongst those different solutions to find the best way to get ourselves to an end result that retakes advantage of what cloud offers. Jim: Uh-huh. 00:00:30 END OF AUDIO