Rod Turk: Well, I’m really happy to say that I’m one of the 23. The Department of Commerce is one of the 23…
JIm Flyzik: All right.
Rod Turk: That John referred to; and we have…
Rod Turk: Oh absolutely. In fact, when I take a look at Department of Commerce, and I think the same is true with most other departments, basic cyber hygiene is really what we need to be looking…
Rod Turk: I found, Jim, that in the world of cybersecurity and even the CIO position and across all the federal government, the issues that we’re dealing with are by in large the same. So…